What I've been wondering about the DMARC problem

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 15 April 2014 01:45 UTC

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:45:15 +1200
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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I thought that standard operating procedure in the IT industry
was: if you roll something out and it causes serious breakage to
some of your users, you roll it back as soon as possible.

Why hasn't Yahoo rolled back its 'reject' policy by now?

Regards
   Brian