Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language (Section 5.4)
Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> Tue, 14 February 2017 22:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language (Section 5.4)
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At 11:01 AM +0100 2/14/17, Gunnar Hellström wrote: > My proposal for a reworded section 5.4 is: > > 5.4. Unusual language indications > > It is possible to specify an unusual indication where the language > specified may look unexpected for the media type. > > For such cases the following guidance SHALL be > applied for the humintlang attributes used in > these situations. > > 1. A view of a speaking person in the video > stream SHALL, when it has relevance for speech > perception, be indicated by a Language-Tag for > spoken/written language with the "Zxxx" script > subtag to indicate that the contents is not > written. What does "relevance for speech perception" mean in the spec, and how is it determined? > > 2. Text captions included in the video > stream SHALL be indicated by a Language-Tag for > spoken/written language. Is this commonly supported such that it makes sense to include in the current draft? Perhaps it should wait for an update that might include similar functionality such as text captions for audio streams. > > 3. Any approximate representation of sign > language or fingerspelling in the text media > stream SHALL be indicated by a Language-Tag for > a sign language in text media. Same comment as for (2). > > 4. When sign language related audio from a > person using sign language is of importance for > language communication, this SHALL be indicated > by a Language-Tag for a sign language in audio > media. Same comment as for (1). -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- They say that 90 per cent of TV is junk. But 90 per cent of *everything* is junk. --Gene Roddenberry, interview in TV Guide, Apr. 27, 1974 (quoting Sturgeon's Revelation: "Ninety percent of everything is crap.")
- Re: IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-negotiatin… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Gunnar Hellström
- RE: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Gunnar Hellström
- RE: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randall Gellens
- RE: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] IETF last call for draft-ietf-slim-neg… Randall Gellens