Re: Thoughts from IETF-92
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Tue, 31 March 2015 11:43 UTC
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 07:43:17 -0400
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Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 06:55:32PM -0400, Richard Shockey wrote: > 2. We need to be more accommodating to public policy folks and National > Regulatory Authorities. Maybe ISOC needs to work on that. Some of us > have tried we get nowhere. I'll note ISOC already does in fact do that (see Fred's message elsewhere in this thread). But also, > RAI had three distinct sessions dealing with highly sensitive public > policy problems with SIP. DISPATCH w/CNIT, the MODERN bof and STIR. Guess > who shows up. > > https://consumersunion.org/end-robocalls > > Needless to say they were met with open arms if not some polite bemusement > and they collected a pile of contacts etc including mine. from what I observed, that interaction looked like a successful one. That is, we had some public policy people who came to the mic and asked some questions about how everything worked, when they could expect something, and so on, and they got besieged by people who know the topic and want to help them. Why do you think that event was evidence of failure to help? It looked like helping to me. Best regards, A (for myself) -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
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- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Richard Shockey
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Dave Crocker
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Richard Shockey
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Richard Shockey
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Christian de Larrinaga
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Matthew Ford
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Leif Johansson
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Richard Shockey
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Nico Williams
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- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Jari Arkko
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- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Thoughts from IETF-92 Richard Shockey
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