Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> Fri, 06 September 2013 07:26 UTC

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Bruce might not know that we have already various activities ongoing. I 
just recently produced a short writeup about the efforts related to this 
topic ongoing at the last IETF meeting on my blog:
http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/wp/?p=993

Ciao
Hannes

On 06.09.2013 03:17, Dean Willis wrote:
>
> This is bigger than the "perpass" list.
>
> I suggested that the surveillance/broken crypto challenge represents "damage to the Internet". I'm not the only one thinking that way.
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> I'd like to share the challenge raised by Bruce Schneier in:
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> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/05/government-betrayed-internet-nsa-spying
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> To quote:
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> We need to know how exactly how the NSA and other agencies are subverting routers, switches, the internet backbone, encryption technologies and cloud systems. I already have five stories from people like you, and I've just started collecting. I want 50. There's safety in numbers, and this form of civil disobedience is the moral thing to do.
>
> Two, we can design. We need to figure out how to re-engineer the internet to prevent this kind of wholesale spying. We need new techniques to prevent communications intermediaries from leaking private information.
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> We can make surveillance expensive again. In particular, we need open protocols, open implementations, open systems – these will be harder for the NSA to subvert.
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> The Internet Engineering Task Force, the group that defines the standards that make the internet run, has a meeting planned for early November in Vancouver. This group needs dedicate its next meeting to this task. This is an emergency, and demands an emergency response.
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> The gauntlet is in our face. What are we going to do about it?
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>
> --
> Dean Willis