Re: Specific Questions about Registration details for IETF 108

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Wed, 03 June 2020 21:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: Specific Questions about Registration details for IETF 108
From: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
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On 2020-06-03, at 18:32, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
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> While I support charging a fee to participate, I don’t see any justification for having different fee levels (Early, Standard, Late). 

While I’m not in the business of providing justifications here, I do like the differential pricing.  The heavier your bureaucracy, the later you pay, and thus the more you pay.
Lean organizations get away with low cost, expensive organizations get to spend the money they undoubtedly have.
(If we do need the money, differential pricing is an easy way to bolster it a bit while minimizing the drawbacks of doing that.)
This is a reason to do it, not a justification; we can run with Jay’s justification.

Grüße, Carsten