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Re: WG Review: Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance (behave) (fwd)

Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> Thu, 23 September 2004 17:14 UTC

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To: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
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Subject: Re: WG Review: Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance (behave) (fwd)
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>>>>> "Harald" == Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> writes:
    >> I agree with Harald that v4 NATs are going to be here a decade
    >> from now.  But that's irrelevant, if those people using the NAT
    >> only use simple client-server applications.

    Harald> Well.... my house was behind 2 levels of NAT until last
    Harald> week.  Once i got rid of one level (the one I don't
    Harald> control), some of my operational problems with keeping SSH
    Harald> sessions up simply went away.  And SSH is a client-server
    Harald> protocol.

  So, you were happier with less NAT. 
  See, I knew that making you happier behind the NAT was the wrong solution.

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