Re: Old directions in social media.

Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Fri, 08 January 2021 17:47 UTC

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Behcet Sarikaya wrote on 08/01/2021 15:55:
> Folks, I see heated discussions on this thread, but I missed its beginnings.
> I would appreciate if someone shortly describes what is being discussed 

What's being discussed is how the IETF should use easily accessible, 
general purpose, commonly-available tools which are specifically 
designed to precisely handle the sorts of things that the IETF and its 
participants need to do, and in the way that suits everyone best at an 
individual basis because that's the tool they've always used, except for 
new tools which we need to design and build to match all these 
requirements.  It's important that this should happen at zero cost to 
anyone, but particularly IETF participants.  And the IETF.

Additionally, everyone wants to make it clear that everyone else's tools 
are also completely welcome unless they happen not to suit everyone's 
purposes perfectly, in which case, they are clearly a hindrance and 
shouldn't be used.  Obviously, the more tools in this category, the 
better.  Particularly git, or not (and Github, or not).

> and what has been learned so far?

That the quantity of hot air emitted in the course of this and other 
discussions on ietf@ could power the earth for generations.

Nick