Re: Proposed New Note Well

"Scott O. Bradner" <sob@sobco.com> Tue, 22 March 2016 09:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: Proposed New Note Well
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> On Mar 21, 2016, at 9:33 PM, Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> On 3/21/16, 09:51, "IETF-Announce on behalf of IESG Secretary" <ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of iesg-secretary@ietf.org> wrote:
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>> […]
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>> • If you are aware that any IETF contribution is covered by patents or 
>> patent applications that are owned or controlled by you or your 
>> sponsor, you must disclose that fact, or not participate in the 
>> discussion.
> 
> Is “not participate in the discussion” broad enough?  Does it include humming, show of hands, etc?  Perhaps replace “participate in the discussion” with  “influence the decision processes regarding the contribution” or “participate in the deliberations regarding the contribution”?

see section 1.k of the just published 
draft-bradner-rfc3979bis-08.txt

the IPR BOF said strongly that the answer is 
"acting in order to influence the outcome of a discussion relating to the IETF Standards Process”

and specifically includes participating in hums, shows of hands etc

Scott
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> Stephan