Re: Registration details for IETF 108

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 06 June 2020 00:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: Registration details for IETF 108
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On 06-Jun-20 09:08, Randy Bush wrote:
>> I saw a discussion on a WG list yesterday which I would characterise as
>>
>> In person meeting; Cost thousands; Timing chosen to suit others
>> Virtual meeting; Cost hundreds; Timing chosen to suit others
>> Virtual interim; Cost negligible; Timing chosen to suit us
> 
> i am constantly amused that the internet engineering task force tries
> to replicate in-person meetings as verbatim as possible.  it's as if
> the ietf has yet to discover the internet.  ever read sci-fi where a
> culture replicates ancient rituals for which they do not even remember
> the reasons?
> 
>> which makes me wonder if there will be an increase in requests for
>> Virtual interim, And if they are constrained, will there be an
>> increase in Webex?
> 
> for example, a number of us have stood up jitsi servers.  and there are
> https://meet.jit.si, free zoom, et alia, of course.  we even hold
> informal ad hoc technical conversations, open cafes, ... without asking
> the ruling ietf llc <gasp!>.
> 
> the world is changing, whether we like it, or it fits our beloved well
> controlled models, or not.

Doesn't fix time zones though, which is why primacy of email remains
essential IMNSHO. Otherwise, what you said.

   Brian