Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy
Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com> Fri, 20 July 2012 15:42 UTC
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From: Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com>
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Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:43:43 +0300
Subject: Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy
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On Jul 20, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Worley, Dale R (Dale) wrote: > On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 06:07 -0700, IETF Administrative Director wrote: >> The draft policy entitled Draft Fee Policy for Legal Requests can be found >> at: <http://iaoc.ietf.org/policyandprocedures.html> > > Assuming that the IAOC has set these fees to be close to the actual > costs of servicing legal requests, I see no objection to the policy. It's hard to gauge the actual costs. What is an hour spent by a volunteer worth? Counsel fees can be measured and covered, but the IAOC members are spending their own (or their employer's) resources on this. Although a lot of the work is done by volunteers, in this case we're selling their work to others, and we should not sell it cheaply. I support this policy. Yoav
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