Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Tue, 05 March 2013 16:18 UTC

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To: Allison Mankin <allison.mankin@gmail.com>
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Allison:

The split between Transport and RAI was needed.  Together it is too much work for one Area.

The rest of your question ought to be discussed at the TSVAREA meeting in Orlando.

Russ


On Mar 4, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Allison Mankin wrote:

> Hi, Russ,
> 
> Was there something causative about extracting RAI from Transport?
> 
> Allison
> 
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
>> Margaret:
>> 
>>> The problem with this argument is that it appears that we have a choice between "limited knowledge of congestion control" and "an empty seat".  Which one is more likely to be able to learn about it?
>> 
>> If that were the extent of this discussion, then the answer would be obvious.  It is not that simple.
>> 
>> This is not the first time we have experienced difficulty in filling the Transport AD seat.  Frankly, since RAI was extracted from Transport this has been a recurring concern.  At various points over the last three years, there have been discussions about reorganization.  That topic has come up on this thread already.
>> 
>> So, the community is faced with two choices:
>> (1) fill the seat with someone with limited knowledge of congestion control, but adequate time commitment to do the job; or
>> (2) reorganize the areas in some fashion.
>> 
>> Russ
>> 
>>