Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' to Proposed Standard
Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Tue, 10 August 2004 12:12 UTC
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Subject: Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' to Proposed Standard
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The IESG writes ("Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' to Proposed Standard "): > The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the > following document: > > - 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type ' > <draft-hall-mime-app-mbox-02.txt> as a Proposed Standard > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits > final comments on this action. Please send any comments to the > iesg@ietf.org or ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2004-09-06. I have the following comments: * This specification is incomplete. There are unresolved issues regarding the semantics of the format. * Since mbox files are text files (assuming that any binary messages in the mailbox are themselves encoded) and can be read sensibly with the naked eye, the content type should be text/* not application/*. This will also remove ambiguity surrounding line endings. * Since an mbox is actually an aggregate type - a way of encoding a set of RFC822 messages - transfer encodings other than 7bit and 8bit should be discouraged. The spec should probably deprecate them in most cases. * The Proposed Standard should either include or refer to a specific mbox format. The fact that there are variant implementations doesn't mean that the Proposed Standard should hesitate to declare those broken (at least, broken when a file is sent as text/mbox). Those variant implementations are not wholly interoperable anyway, and in order to write software which deals correctly with text/mbox it will be necessary for the spec to say what the format is supposed to be ! * The format specified should be that described in Rahu Dhesi's posting to comp.mail.misc in 1996, <4ivk9s$bok@hustle.rahul.net>. * If an mbox file contains messages with unencoded binary data, the file is difficult to sensibly process on a machine with non-UN*X line-endings, because of the bare CRs in the binary data. (Bare LFs are fine and look just like line endings, with From_-escaping and all.) As far as I can tell there is then no non-lossy representation of the file which allows sensible local processing by non-mbox-specific tools. This issue should be resolved (or at least acknowledged). Ian. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Ian Jackson
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Eric A. Hall
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Tim Bray
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Philip Guenther
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Kai Henningsen
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Eric A. Hall
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Vernon Schryver
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Bruce Lilly
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Tony Hansen
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Eric A. Hall
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Vernon Schryver
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Bruce Lilly
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Eric A. Hall
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Keith Moore
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … ned.freed
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Robert Elz
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Tony Hansen
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Eric A. Hall
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Eric A. Hall
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Dave Crocker
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Keith Moore
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Dave Crocker
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … Bruce Lilly
- Re: Last Call: 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type' … ned.freed