Re: Nomcom Enhancements: Improving the IETF leadership selection process

Dave CROCKER <dhc2@dcrocker.net> Mon, 19 July 2010 00:23 UTC

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On 7/18/2010 5:00 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
> But those general groups, in sequence, will have a monotonically increasing
> experience with the processes and with the performance of people that are in
> those groups - someone who has pushed an ID through a working group probably
> has a better educated view of the chair than someone who has simply sat in
> the audience, and so on.


Nomcom chooses ADs, IETF Chair, IAB members and IAOC/Trust members, not working 
group chairs.

So perhaps I've missed your point.

Also, a typical author actually gets a very restricted view of the larger IETF 
management processes.

d/
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   Dave Crocker
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