Re: Revised IAOC Administrative Procedures draft

Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com> Sun, 12 September 2010 22:16 UTC

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:16:53 -0700
From: Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>
To: Henk Uijterwaal <henk@ripe.net>
Subject: Re: Revised IAOC Administrative Procedures draft
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Suppose we held an IAOC meeting in some commercial meeting room venue 
(virtual or real). Suppose one of us as an individual had to pay 
the fee for the use of the room in advance on behalf of the IAOC (or 
ISOC really). In such circumstances I would expect the individual
to be reimbursed at some point.

I can imagine many similar scenarios and I think the rule as stated
is clear enough: no member of the IAOC (except the IAD) is being
paid for their services, expenses is something quite different.

I am sure there are other parts of the organization where similar
discretionary rules apply, and this isn't a protocol spec. I agree
with Henk that if this seems non-transparent we should publish the
actual expenses paid in our minutes.

Ole


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On Sun, 12 Sep 2010, Henk Uijterwaal wrote:

> Adrian,
> 
> > I have absolutely no doubt of the integrity of the IAOC and its chair, but this
> > rule is somewhat vague and open to interpretation. It is like using the word
> > "appropriate" in a protocol spec!
> 
> Yes, true, but this is really a rare exception.  In the 1.5 years that I've
> been on the IAOC, I don't remember a case where expenses were made and
> reimbursed.  That makes it hard to be more precise here.
>  
> > Could you look at qualifying this in some way to scope the exceptional
> > circumstances. Perhaps payment of expenses would be made only if the payment has
> > been agreed before the expense was incurred?
> 
> If the IAOC members wanted to claim expenses that should not be reimbursed,
> this rule would be easy to circumvent.  If this is a concern, then I'd
> suggest that the IAOC simply publishes what expenses were paid.
> 
> Henk
> 
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