Re: Scenario C prerequisites (Re: Upcoming: further thoughts on where from here)

Jeffrey Hutzelman <> Wed, 22 September 2004 15:12 UTC

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On Wednesday, September 22, 2004 05:59:02 +0200 Harald Tveit Alvestrand 
<> wrote:

> Being a bit facetious here, the only way to be sure the sun will rise in
> the morning is to wait for it to show up. If we get an organizational
> charter that a tax attorney is willing to assure us "is likely to be
> accepted as a nonprofit", I (personally) think that the risk of the IRS
> acting irrationally is an acceptable risk, if we find that the scenario C
> solution is the one we want.

I think this and a number of other points made here gloss over a key point 
of which some of the participants may not be aware.

Under US law, there is a significant difference between "not-for-profit" 
and "charitable nonprofit".  The former status is relatively easy to 
obtain; the latter is much more difficult.  Only the "charitable" status 
makes you exempt from a variety of taxes, and only that status means that 
donations made to you are deductable for the donor under US income tax law.

-- Jeffrey T. Hutzelman (N3NHS) <>
   Sr. Research Systems Programmer
   School of Computer Science - Research Computing Facility
   Carnegie Mellon University - Pittsburgh, PA

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