Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dallas, TX
"Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com> Wed, 25 February 2015 20:12 UTC
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From: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com>
To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dallas, TX
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Hi Warren, Fair questions. There are now answers to several of these on the community page created for the Hackathon. Please have a look and feel free to post any other questions or thoughts. Cheers, Charles On 2/25/15, 10:05 AM, "Warren Kumari" <warren@kumari.net> wrote: >On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com> >wrote: >> On 2/25/15 8:04 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: >>> But the expectation that someone will approach you is kind of absurd. >> >> That's nonsense, Ted. Nobody's saying "You didn't approach *me*". >> What we're saying is that there are questions about where the list >> of technologies came from, particularly given that 1) they're for >> the most part technologies that have not been adopted as IETF >> deliverables, and 2) they appear more aligned with Cisco's efforts >> than with anything the IETF is doing. If Cisco wants to have a >> Cisco hackathon coinciding with an IETF meeting, awesome, but >> let's not pretend this is an IETF event. >> >> Who's paying for the room, the network, the food, the ... ? >> >> I think an *IETF* hackathon is a great idea. But between the >> extremely late scheduling and the really weird content, this looks >> like kind of a mess. Might have made more sense to wait until >> summer, give the thing a better chance of success because of >> better planning. > >Yup - I initially stuck up for the idea, and still think that the >*idea* is a good one, but I'm becoming worries about the execution. >The announcement page has a link to a "discussion forum", which >required me hunting down my cisco.com login. > >I was hoping for more details there, but no luck... > >I am still glad that someone is organizing this (flawed though it >might be), but I'd like to understand: >1: *who* exactly is organizing this? (Is it Cisco? The IETF? A joint >thing?) >2: If the IETF getting sponsorship for this? >3: How are the projects being chosen? And by whom? >4: Is this under Note Well? Does Cisco own any IPR generated? Or the >IETF? or individuals? >5: This says it is being done at the Fairmont, and I'm assuming there >will be a need for network. Have the organizers arranged for this? >(Hint: I don't think the NOC team has heard anything about this...) > >W > >> >> Melinda >> > > > >-- >I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad >idea in the first place. >This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing >regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair >of pants. > ---maf >
- IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dallas, TX IETF Secretariat
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Dave Crocker
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Warren Kumari
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Xavier Marjou
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Melinda Shore
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Dave Crocker
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Dean Bogdanovic
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Ted Lemon
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Ted Lemon
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Melinda Shore
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… John Levine
- Re: [92all] IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-2… Ted Lemon
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Eggert, Lars
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Eggert, Lars
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Melinda Shore
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Ted Lemon
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Melinda Shore
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Warren Kumari
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Ted Lemon
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Melinda Shore
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Ted Lemon
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Melinda Shore
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Melinda Shore
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Melinda Shore
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Nico Williams
- Nature of the Hackathon (Was: IETF Hackathon at I… Jari Arkko
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Warren Kumari
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Mary Barnes
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Dean Bogdanovic
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Benson Schliesser
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Melinda Shore
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- RE: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… James Gannon
- RE: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dalla… James Gannon