RE: Bake-off as trademark

"Michael Francois" <mdf@epoch.net> Tue, 07 November 2000 02:20 UTC

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From: "Michael Francois" <mdf@epoch.net>
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Subject: RE: Bake-off as trademark
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:13:31 -0800
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the term 'Bake-Off' is trademarked by the Pillsbury Company, with the first
use I can see in 1950 ... it refers to:

Word Mark BAKE-OFF
Goods and Services IC 035. US 101. G & S: COOKING CONTESTS FOR THE PURPOSE
OF PROMOTING THE CREATION OF NEW RECIPES. FIRST USE: 19500000. FIRST USE IN
COMMERCE: 19500000
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 72354774
Filing Date March 23, 1970
Registration Number 0938249
Registration Date July 18, 1972
Owner (REGISTRANT) PILLSBURY COMPANY, THE CORPORATION DELAWARE PILLSBURY
CENTER 200 SOUTH SIXTH ST. MINNEAPOLIS MINNESOTA 55402
Attorney of Record RICHARD Q. RUSSETH
Prior Registrations 0871348
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECT 8 (6-YR).
Renewal 1ST RENEWAL 19920325
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

http://tess.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=toc&state=mn8lij.1.1&p_search=searchss&
p_L=50&Search+History=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA4=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA4%24LD&p_
s_PARA3=bake+off&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA3%24COMB&p_op_PARA3=AND&a_default=searc
h&a_search=Submit+Query

i noticed this site crossed out 'bake off' and replaced it with 'cacheoff'
... wonder if pilssbury spoke to them ...

http://cacheoff.ircache.net/

searching at google came back with pages and pages of technical and other
'bake offs' ...

http://www.google.com/search?q=bake+off

getting international for a moment, i think in england the term 'bake off'
refers to the process of finishing a partially baked product at another
location ...

http://www.wrightspies.co.uk/bake-off.htm

anyway, i should obviously be spending my time on something else ... :)

michael


:-----Original Message-----
:From: hgs@cs.columbia.edu [mailto:hgs@cs.columbia.edu]
:Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 12:15 PM
:To: ietf@ietf.org
:Subject: Bake-off as trademark
:
:
:I've been approached regarding the use of the (claimed-to-be)
:trademarked term bake-off. It would be helpful if somebody can provide
:credible evidence that this term has been used within the technical
:community for many years. (In case you didn't know,
:http://www.bakeoff.com/ shows the non-technical use....)
:
:Thank you.
:--
:Henning Schulzrinne   http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~hgs
:
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