Re: Registration open for IETF 114
Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Mon, 09 May 2022 19:48 UTC
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On 5/9/22 15:10, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> This is not only extremely unreasonable, it's insulting to the very notion of IETF and offensive to many of those who aren't funded by Big Companies. It's appalling. > Maybe you haven’t been paying attention to hotel/motel rates in the past couple of years, but they have been undergoing significant inflation. > > It might be a bit of a stretch to describe $US190/day as “very reasonable”, but - for a high-end hotel in the center of a large city - this hardly counts as “unreasonable” anymore, sadly. Since when is "high-end" a requirement for IETF? If there aren't reasonably-priced rooms near an IETF venue, it's not a suitable venue. Alternative hotels don't need to be "high-end", IMO. They need to be safe, have plenty of rooms available, be close enough to walk to, and have reliable Wi-Fi. Keith p.s. I don't want to insist that anyone be uncomfortable as a condition of participation in IETF, just like I don't want to insist that participants should have to spend hundreds of dollars per night to do so. But it seems to me that most people who really want to get work done don't need "high-end" accommodations. And if "high-end" is more important in venue/hotel selection than "affordable", something's seriously out of whack.
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Ross Finlayson
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Alexa Morris
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Lars Eggert
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 John C Klensin
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Michael Richardson
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Alexa Morris
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 John C Klensin
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Keith Moore
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Ross Finlayson
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Keith Moore
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 John Levine
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Keith Moore
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 John Levine
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Keith Moore
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 George Michaelson
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 touch@strayalpha.com
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Keith Moore
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Carsten Bormann
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Livingood, Jason
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 John C Klensin
- RE: Registration open for IETF 114 Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Mary B
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Anupam Agrawal
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Mary B
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Keith Moore
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Livingood, Jason
- Are IETF meeting fees exclusionary? (Was: Registr… Jay Daley
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Keith Moore
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Christian Hopps
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Mary B
- Re: Are IETF meeting fees exclusionary? (Was: Reg… Michael Douglass
- Re: Are IETF meeting fees exclusionary? (Was: Reg… Keith Moore
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- Re: Are IETF meeting fees exclusionary? (Was: Reg… Keith Moore
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- Re: Are IETF meeting fees exclusionary? (Was: Reg… Keith Moore
- Re: Registration open for IETF 114 Alexa Morris