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Re: NomCom procedures revision

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Fri, 28 August 2015 13:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: NomCom procedures revision
To: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
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From: Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net>
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On 8/28/2015 4:13 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
> Once established, this procedure
>    cannot be altered until the current nominating committee is
>    dissolved.
> 
> A) It turns out that voting mechanisms are *tricky* beasts. The idea
> that a nomcom will make them 100% right on the first try is a Bad Idea.

That assertion would seem to run contrary to the process rigidity you
are proposing above.

d/

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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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