Re: Security Considerations, IoT and Everything

Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 23 November 2016 02:21 UTC

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From: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 21:21:15 -0500
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Subject: Re: Security Considerations, IoT and Everything
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Hi Mike,

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
wrote:

>
>
> On 22/11/16 22:35, Michael StJohns wrote:
> > On 11/22/2016 4:56 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> >>
> >> On 22/11/16 20:25, Michael StJohns wrote:
> >>> Is it time to revise BCP72/RFC3522 to require we also address threats
> >>> *from* the protocols to the Internet as a whole?
> >> Yes. As Kathleen said please do contribute to the relevant
> >> thread [1] on the saag list.
> >>
> >> S.
> >>
> >> [1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/saag/current/msg07514.html
> >>
> > Thanks - missed this on the SAAG list when it first came out.
> >
> > To be honest, this thread/discussion appears a bit moribund:
>
> Yep. I hope though that topics such as this will be raised
> and dealt with. I guess it'll be slower than we hoped though.
>
> > it wasn't
> > brought up during the SAAG meeting this time AFAICT,


In addition to Stephen's response, which covered the other points in your
message...

There was a presentation slot for this update in Berlin and Yoav went to
the mic during open mic to request feedback during this meeting in Seoul.
I added a plea for contributions restating the importance of this draft and
the need for contributions explaining how useful it is to other areas of
the IETF in particular to make sure these requests were heard and it was
understood that it was important.

Thanks,
Kathleen


> it doesn't appear
> > to actually be a WG item as of yet, there doesn't appear to be much if
> > any discussion on the SAAG list (a quick look doesn't find anything
> > since July excepts Stephen's note - and that was all related to
> > privacy), and the ID and GIT don't appear to have been updated since
> > August.  The version on GIT seems to be only a references update from
> > 3522.  It looks like there was maybe a 10 minute - if that - chat about
> > this in Berlin.
> >
> > Perhaps it's time to have a broader (than SAAG) discussion on this as it
> > really reaches further?
>
> I don't care if it's broad or narrow so long as we cover the
> ground. If/when folks engage then we'll find the right method
> for handling engagement. (Could be on here, on saag or on a
> new list - but for now, I think saag is the better option.)
>
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ps - on another note, why doesn't the SAAG have a datatracker page like
> > rtgwg?
>
> Saag's not a WG. People suggest it now and then (and others
> dislike the idea). Feel free to raise that too (though I'd
> far prefer we discuss 3552bis myself.)
>
> Cheers,
> S.
>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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>


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Best regards,
Kathleen