Re: Future Handling of Blue Sheets

Martin Rex <mrex@sap.com> Wed, 25 April 2012 00:19 UTC

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From: Martin Rex <mrex@sap.com>
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Subject: Re: Future Handling of Blue Sheets
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 02:19:32 +0200
In-Reply-To: <55D616E55DE488613C887B3D@JCK-EEE10> from "John C Klensin" at Apr 24, 12 07:25:39 pm
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John C Klensin wrote:
> 
> Martin Rex <mrex@sap.com> wrote:
> >
> > Identifying contributors or participants and publishing persons
> > photos or portaits are two very distinct things, and the former
> > does not require the latter at all.
> 
> In principle, I could keep the pictures to myself and put a list
> of names of volunteers in the minutes.  Now suppose Joe Bloggs
> is listed but announces on the mailing list after not doing
> anything that he really didn't volunteer.  I've now got a choice
> among accepting his assertion that he didn't volunteer, letting
> him retroactively un-volunteer, or publishing the picture to
> prove my case (and you claim the latter is illegal).  For a
> number of reasons, generating peer pressure among them, I prefer
> to just publish the picture.

I had assumed there is a difference between "volunteering in an IETF WG"
to do some work and "volunteering in Uncle Sam's recruiting buero".
When did this change?

I would also assume that "volunteering" should be scoped to what the
volunteer personally commits by explicit vocal or written communication,
rather than a "show of hand" volunteering to an unspecified amount
of work on the mind of a WG chair.  And any such personal commitment
may be vitally dependent on several constraints that are not explicitly
communicated along with it, and those may change.


I really do not see any need for a "photo proof" in that area, and much less
of a _publication_ of a photo.  Does this mean that IETF participants,
who do not attend IETF meetings in person, can no longer volunteer to
contribute to the IETF?

-Martin