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Re: Proposed IETF Anti-Harassment Policy

Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com> Tue, 22 October 2013 22:33 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Proposed IETF Anti-Harassment Policy
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On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:43 PM, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> What about a slide presentation in a wg discussion in perpass which
> included the following image?

My reaction to this is that it seems to trivialize types of real-world harassment that are quite common (although hopefully not common in the IETF).   If this image were the worst "harassment" that our ombudsperson had to deal with, that would seem to me to be very good news indeed.

But I don't work for the NSA, so maybe I'm missing something about this image that someone who does work for the NSA would see.

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