RE: Proposed IETF 95 Date Change
"Dearlove, Christopher (UK)" <Chris.Dearlove@baesystems.com> Tue, 24 July 2012 12:21 UTC
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From: "Dearlove, Christopher (UK)" <Chris.Dearlove@baesystems.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com>
Subject: RE: Proposed IETF 95 Date Change
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I think the main (as in the one more people would care about) issue here (UK) isn't a religious clash, it's a public holiday clash (Friday and Monday). -- Christopher Dearlove Senior Principal Engineer, Communications Group Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK Tel: +44 1245 242194 | Fax: +44 1245 242124 chris.dearlove@baesystems.com | http://www.baesystems.com BAE Systems (Operations) Limited Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK Registered in England & Wales No: 1996687 -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter Sent: 21 July 2012 08:16 To: Fred Baker (fred) Cc: Paul Hoffman; IETF discussion list Subject: Re: Proposed IETF 95 Date Change ----------------------! WARNING ! ---------------------- This message originates from outside our organisation, either from an external partner or from the internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message. Follow the 'Report Suspicious Emails' link on IT matters for instructions on reporting suspicious email messages. -------------------------------------------------------- On 21/07/2012 02:30, Fred Baker (fred) wrote: > On Jul 20, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > >> As for the Ramadan issue: we've had IETF meetings during Jewish holidays a few times, and folks dealt with it as best they can. If there are some accommodations that can be made at any IETF meeting for different holidays of major religions, I would bet that IETF Secretariat would be glad to hear them. > > > It comes down to adding them to the clash list... (which is at http://www.ietf.org/meeting/clash-list.html) And we know that if we did that, on top of all the other technical meetings that we have to avoid, the result would be overconstrained and scheduling would become impossible. IMNSHO we need to treat all religious constraints alike, and in practice that means ignoring them. For practical reasons, we can't ignore major holidays - not because some of them are religious, but because they block up hotels and airlines. Finding the least bad solution is always going to be a compromise, and I thank the IAOC for continuing to plan several years ahead. Brian ******************************************************************** This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. ********************************************************************
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