RE: How I deal with (false positive) IP-address blacklists...
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> > Why should > > it not be as simple to set up an IETF standard email system for a > > small organization as it was 10 years ago? > > > If you go back far enough, New York City was small and > friendly. Not much required to build a satisfactory home there. > > Things have changed. No matter the size of the home, things > have changed. > > Environmental pressures are ignored only at one's serious risk. I agree with all of your points. But I also believe that it should be possible to encapsulate the neccessary security features into an Internet email architecture so that people can set up an email server for a small organization in an afternoon, and it will pretty much run on its own. The fact that the current Internet email architecture does not allow for this, and therefore disenfranchises small organizations from running their own email services, does not dissuade me from believing that we could fix the problem if we put some effort into doing so. --Michael Dillon _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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