Re: PS Characterization Clarified

Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Tue, 17 September 2013 10:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: PS Characterization Clarified
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On 17/09/2013 11:32, Dave Cridland wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Olaf Kolkman <olaf@nlnetlabs.nl 
> <mailto:olaf@nlnetlabs.nl>> wrote:
>
>
>     Based on the conversation below I converged to:
>
>
>        <t>
>           While less mature specifications will usually be published as
>           Informational or Experimental RFCs, the IETF may, in exceptional
>           cases, publish a specification that still contains areas for
>           improvement or certain uncertainties about whether the best
>           engineering choices are made.  In those cases that fact will be
>           clearly and prominently communicated in the document e.g. in the
>           abstract, the introduction, or a separate section or statement.
>         </t>
>
>
> I read John's message as being against the use of the phrase "in 
> exceptional cases". I would also like to avoid that; it suggests that 
> some exceptional argument may have to be made, and has the implication 
> that it essentially operates outside the process.
>
> I would prefer the less formidable-sounding "on occasion", which still 
> implies relative rarity.

+1.