Re: PS Characterization Clarified
Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Tue, 17 September 2013 10:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: PS Characterization Clarified
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On 17/09/2013 11:32, Dave Cridland wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Olaf Kolkman <olaf@nlnetlabs.nl > <mailto:olaf@nlnetlabs.nl>> wrote: > > > Based on the conversation below I converged to: > > > <t> > While less mature specifications will usually be published as > Informational or Experimental RFCs, the IETF may, in exceptional > cases, publish a specification that still contains areas for > improvement or certain uncertainties about whether the best > engineering choices are made. In those cases that fact will be > clearly and prominently communicated in the document e.g. in the > abstract, the introduction, or a separate section or statement. > </t> > > > I read John's message as being against the use of the phrase "in > exceptional cases". I would also like to avoid that; it suggests that > some exceptional argument may have to be made, and has the implication > that it essentially operates outside the process. > > I would prefer the less formidable-sounding "on occasion", which still > implies relative rarity. +1.
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