Re: Ombudsteam update

Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com> Mon, 21 January 2019 15:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: Ombudsteam update
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 10:02:00 -0500
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Hi AB,

> On Jan 18, 2019, at 1:18 AM, Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>; wrote:
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> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 8:09 PM Allison Mankin <allison.mankin@gmail.com <mailto:allison.mankin@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi, Abdussalam,
> 
> You are right, I misread the date on the mail when I was writing yesterday (I have a kind of calendar dyslexia).   I too have that mail, but what I wrote yesterday is still the case.  
> 
> Please let ombudteam know (adding back ombudsteam to this email) if you have a continuing issue, as my mail said yesterday.
> 
> Yes I have a continuing issues, and the ombudsteam will be informed in the coming days, however, the biggest problem/issue was the IPWAVE AD and chair MUST follow up to make discussions easy and productive.

For people who do not know the context, this was AB’s mail

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/its/8aH6ikp6mIJ5BMIJApx6PqqyzPg

This was Tony Li’s mail that AB was responding to

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/its/iGhHmoJy2Ien_iyoOgd6I5gXzWM

> My formal public message was ignored by IETF AD office

????. I did respond on list to your message with my view

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/its/Lb84WgER7edzsJhp5cyjhxoYaxk

> , then formal private message ignored by ombudsteam, so I was powerless. 

I am not privy to the workings of the ombudsteam. I will let them respond to this.

> It is strange that it is easy of IETF-members/selected-members to ignore/drop formal emails/messages/letters/requests in IETF/IESG.

Once you escalated the message to the ombudsteam, it is for the ombudsteam to judge. If there were specific actions for the ipwave chairs or the IESG I am assuming we would have heard from the ombudsteam.

Thanks
Suresh