Re: Quality of Directorate reviews

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Wed, 06 November 2019 17:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: Quality of Directorate reviews
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 09:10:47 -0800
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Cc: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>, Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Hi,

> On Nov 6, 2019, at 7:28 AM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com> wrote:
>> Perhaps RFCs could list (within the document) who reviewed/approved
>> them, and in which role/capacity the review had been performed.
> 
> +10.
> 
>> This could serve two purposes:
>> - some minimal reward for those individuals taking the time to review the document,
>> - encouragement for the reviewers to ensure that an adequate review has been performed based on the role/capacity in which they are acting.
> 
> I've also suggested that the XML for the acknowledgement section be
> structured so that we could extract this information better.

All of this (reviewers, Shepard, AD reviews, ballots, etc.) is captured in the datatracker currently.   I am not sure why it would also need to be in the document.

Bob