Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2119-update-00.txt

John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Thu, 11 August 2016 00:24 UTC

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--On Tuesday, August 09, 2016 14:33 -0700 Dave Crocker
<dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote:

> On 8/9/2016 2:22 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
>>  In general, I don't distinguish
>> between caps in running text, but all the screen readers I've
>> used (including even the one on Android) can distinguish caps
>> if you ask them too.

> I'd expect that change in screen reader mode to add quite a
> bit of noise the the output, as all the case changes are
> noted, where only a tiny number matter.  Low signal to noise
> like that seems likely to be distracting, at best.

Dave, 

Sam and others who use screen readers every day (and, I trust,
screen readers that match their needs) are much more important
than I am about this, but I have used screen readers from time
to time -- typically out of necessity at those times-- and the
knobs permit me to make settings that tell me about
ordinarily-capitalized words or not, punctuation or not,
completely capitalized words or not, etc.  So, if I set one up
that way, I can be told about MUST without being told that
"Sam", the first word in the previous sentence, starts with a
capital letter.

I don't think the draft has this quite right (see longer note
sent a short time ago), but, because I don't see the options as
limited to "case change" or not (which, would, indeed, be very
distracting in most texts), I don't see the screen reader
question as a powerful bar to what the draft suggests.

      john