Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Wed, 25 November 2020 22:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
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On 11/25/20 4:43 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote:

>> I have a cluster of systems using FTP to mirror I-D's.  Just the
>> .txt and index files.  This is trivial to perform with FTP, and
>> I've been running the same FTP-based mirror script for over a decade.
>> The cluster I use doesn't support rsync, and likely never will
>
> the issue at stake is technical debt, and specifically who pays for 
> it: ietf llc, or ietf stakeholders. 

That's an _extremely_ biased (and I would argue insulting) way of 
framing the issue.  FTP is not technical debt, it's a valuable feature 
that not everyone happens to utilize (maybe because that's not their 
preference, maybe because they've never seen the advantages).

Or if you want to put it that way, HTTP/HTML/CSS/JS/etc. has a lot of 
technical debt too: a tremendous amount of code overhead needed to use 
it effectively, really bloated clients, dysfunctional user interface 
when used outside of a very narrow range, high maintenance costs, etc.