Re: Quality of Directorate reviews

Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Wed, 06 November 2019 16:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: Quality of Directorate reviews
From: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 16:02:33 +0000
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> On 6 Nov 2019, at 14:38, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019, Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote:
> 
>> Perhaps RFCs could list (within the document) who reviewed/approved them, and in which role/capacity the review had been performed.
>> 
>> This could serve two purposes:
>> - some minimal reward for those individuals taking the time to review the document,
>> - encouragement for the reviewers to ensure that an adequate review has been performed based on the role/capacity in which they are acting.
> 
> I think I like this idea, but also, speaking for myself I would refuse
> to review a few more documents of things that are too far out of my
> area of expertise (which might be a good or bad thing, depending on
> whether anyone else steps up)
> 
> Paul
> 

I learn a lot from the out of area drafts that I get asked to review.

- Stewart