Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty please) ? (was: Re: John/rsoc: Re: Page numbers in RFCs questions / preferences)

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Thu, 29 October 2020 00:55 UTC

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:55:19 -0700
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
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Subject: Re: Jim: Re: [rfc-i] FIXED: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty please) ? (was: Re: John/rsoc: Re: Page numbers in RFCs questions / preferences)
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Hi Mark,

I think we are solidly into "your way is not my way but your way is okay"
territory here.  Just because you like the clickable-link ToC and it works
great for you does not meen that everyone else has to prefer it, too.
If John is happy with "dumb" text, what difference does it make to you?

-Ben

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:30:53AM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote:
> John, with electronic versions the ToC *works* for PDF and HTML.
> 
> For dead trees versions the ToC does not work efficiently regardless
> of the original form.  Binary searches through a stack of pages is
> not efficient.  The plain text version also has this issue in the
> electronic version.
> 
> The point of a ToC is to have list of the sections *and* to be able
> to get to the relevant section easily.  When you can’t click on a link
> you need page numbers especially as we have unnumbered sections.
> 
> One shouldn’t have to memorise the section names *and* order in the ToC
> to find something in a dead tree version.