Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-01.txt

Michael StJohns <> Sat, 18 August 2012 22:19 UTC

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At 07:44 PM 8/17/2012, Michael StJohns wrote:
>Read section 10, 3rd paragraph of RFC3777.  
>> The prior year's Chair may select a designee from a pool composed
>>       of the voting
>>volunteers of the prior year's committee and all
>>       prior Chairs if the Chair is unavailable.
>>If the prior year's
>>       Chair is unavailable or is unable or unwilling to make such a
>>designation in a timely fashion, the Chair of the current year's
>>       committee may select a
>>designee in consultation with the Internet
>>       Society President.
>So it's actually, the prior chair (first choice), any member of the prior committee, or 
>any other prior chair.

Sorry - while I love the iPad, at times its painful to edit things correctly.

The original reference to "advisor" in the collection of members in the original text is as above - the past chair or the chair's alternate selected as above.

The other reference to the "any other advisors" you mention below is elsewhere in 3777.  So we were both fondling different parts of the same elephant....

With respect to the current edit of the text I'd make one more change to make this clear:

>        The nominating committee is comprised of a Chair, ten
>        voting volunteers, the immediate past nominating
>        committee Chair 

[or their alternate]

> in an advisory capacity, plus liaisons
>        and optional additional advisor(s) as described in
>        Section 4 of RFC 3777.


>On Aug 17, 2012, at 15:36, John C Klensin <<>> wrote:
>>--On Friday, August 17, 2012 15:30 -0400 Michael StJohns
>><<>> wrote:
>>>The advisor is the Immediately previous chair, or a member of
>>>the previous noncom designated by that chair if he/she
>>>declines to serve or is otherwise unavailable. 
>>That was what I thought until I reread 3777.  It says that the
>>immediately previous chair serves as an advisor but also says
>>that the Nomcom can appoint any other advisors it feels like.  I
>>assume that combination is part of where "at least" came from.
>>But Barry's new text gets rid of that odd and possibly confusing
>>way of stating things and is, IMO, a considerable improvement.
>>   john