Re: Do you really not care whether people accept your mail?

Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> Wed, 15 March 2017 15:57 UTC

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On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:41:46PM -0400, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> ???Perhaps we should just recognize the fact that SMTP does not really
> support mailing lists, it never has and never will. All the kludges and
> duct tape in the world won't fix what is broken here.
> 
> I read my IETF mail through gmail because, well its easiest to do that. And
> I have roughly 10GB of mailing list traffic. Most of which is probably
> copied 50-100 times or more.

I disgree.  I have about 260G of mailing list, newsgroup, and RSS traffic
(both of which latter two can be coerced into mbox format, making it
possible to use the same tools on them) and I have no problem managing
it, searching it, using it.  I think it's just a matter of selecting
the right approach, including the right tools.

Mailing lists are clearly the best mechanism for group collaboration
that we have (I'll enumerate my reasons for that if necessary) and it
would be a major strategic error to move away from because they're not
handled well at the moment by some hastily-deployed technologies that
failed to fully take them into account.

---rsk