Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rfc2119-update-00.txt
Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Wed, 01 August 2012 16:04 UTC
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Subject: Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rfc2119-update-00.txt
From: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
To: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>
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> > I written this draft starting a RFC2119 update for the reasons of > discussion threads in [1] and [2]. Please check draft and feedback, > thanking you. > I agree with what Paul and Melinda have said. This document is pointless, as there is no actual problem that it's solving and no misunderstanding that it's clarifying. Further, it's actively *harmful*. It's arguable that 2119 already reserves too many words by giving them specific, normative meanings (SHALL *and* MUST; SHOULD *and* RECOMMENDED). Adding IF, THEN, and ELSE would not only be unnecessary, but downright *bad*. Barry
- Fwd: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-r… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Paul Hoffman
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Melinda Shore
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Barry Leiba
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Paul Hoffman
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Mark Nottingham
- RE: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Adrian Farrel
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Melinda Shore
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Yoav Nir
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Eggert, Lars
- RE: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Adrian Farrel
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… James Polk
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Scott Brim
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… SM
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Hector Santos
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… joel jaeggli
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Randy Bush
- Re: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Murray S. Kucherawy
- RE: New Version Notification for: draft-baryun-rf… Adrian Farrel