Re: Concerns about Singapore

[Dave Crocker <[e-mail]>]

> This surprises me - "this has been a condition placed on hosts...".
> Could you enlighten us as to which [and I'll try to be precise here]
> other IETFs had a condition where the content accessible by the IETF
> network was markedly different from the content of say the network at a
> local Starbuck's equivalent wifi hot spot just down the street from the
> IETF and where that was mandated by the hosts and/or local laws?


A basic issue that seems to distinguish a number of venue concerns is 
whether constraints are state-imposed or are only the choice of the 
local site operator.  Negotiating variations for site-imposed 
constraints is fundamentally different and fundamentally more 
problematic (or impossible) than for state-imposed ones.

As far as I'm aware, Beijing has been the only venue where Internet 
access issues ran into state-imposed restrictions.

If I've heard folk correctly, that distinction seems to be the essence 
of what is being expressed against Singapore.

d/


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   Dave Crocker
   Brandenburg InternetWorking
   bbiw.net