Re: make IPR declaration on IETF site but targeted at another SDO?

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Thu, 14 November 2019 11:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: make IPR declaration on IETF site but targeted at another SDO?
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I want to thank to the participants who posted replies.

We read and analyzed each reply.

The activity is pursuing.  At this time, we are exploring within ETSI 
whether it is acceptable to make IPR declarations elsewhere (not on ETSI 
website) for ETSI-documented technology.   We also asked whether ETSI 
would accept that that technology be put into an I-D too, and then refer 
to it in the ETSI document.  We also asked ETSI whether other IPR 
submission ideas might be promissing (other than submitting IPR 
declarations on the ETSI website).

We also contacted a person from the law department (service juridique) 
and another one from the IPR department.

That's where we are with this.

Alex
PS: for information, the IP-based technology relates to vehicular 
networks, to vehicle-to-vehicle communication, to establishing IP paths, 
scalability, and to extensions of Router Advertisements.

Le 07/11/2019 à 17:15, Bob Hinden a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 7:17 AM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Rich, here.
>>
>> Participation in each SDO is subject to the IPR rules of that SDO. Individuals or their sponsoring organisations need to follow those rules.
>>
>> Disclosing IPR in one SDO has zero impact on the disclosure of IPR in another SDO.
>>
>> Consult an attorney or read the rules?
> 
> Yes, my take as well.   The IETF IPR rules are for documents in the IETF process.   If one has an issue in another SDO, use that SDO’s IPR process.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>> From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Salz, Rich
>> Sent: 07 November 2019 15:10
>> To: Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>; Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
>> Cc: IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
>> Subject: Re: make IPR declaration on IETF site but targeted at another SDO?
>>
>> I am much less sympathetic. If the company has a patent, the company needs to figure out how to disclose that.
>