Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Sun, 21 May 2023 16:31 UTC
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From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org>, IETF Discussion List <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found
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Marc, IANAL, but I would assume that publication as in Informational RFC, with all of the IPR issues and permissions that go with it, would require explicit permission from Rivest and/or MIT. It might be far easier for you to reach out to him, point out that it has disappeared, and request/suggest a more stable location and URL for this important paper. MIT is certainly able to do that, usually honors requests from Institute Professors unless there is strong reason not to, and the work required would be a note from you to him and a note from him to the powers-that-be, not the rather tedious process required to get an Informational RFC organized and published. john --On Sunday, May 21, 2023 06:28 -0700 Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org> wrote: > https://people.csail.mit.edu/rivest/Sexp.txt is no longer > reachable. This is a document I use often in my work so I'd > like to have a more stable reference, like an Informational > RFC. > > Is there any interest in trying to do that? > > Thanks. > > P.S.: I attached my copy of that document. Thanks to Zotero > for making the Web a little less annoying.
- Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found John C Klensin
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found John Levine
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Michael Richardson
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Joe Touch
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Salz, Rich
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Scott Bradner
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Michael StJohns
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Donald Eastlake
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Scott Bradner
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Salz, Rich
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found John Levine
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found John Levine
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found John C Klensin
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Donald Eastlake
- Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found Donald Eastlake