Re: Registration policies (was: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance (dmarc))
Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Fri, 18 July 2014 00:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: Registration policies (was: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance (dmarc))
From: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
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> > > > assignment guidance is for people to contact the IETF to request an >> > assignment in that registry. From the IETF side they would be some >> > commitment to review the request. >> >> No. IETF Review means that the request has to be made from an IETF >> Stream document. Such a document is being reviewed by the IETF >> anyway, and the registry adds no extra work. > > > For the sake of comparison (and hopefully clarification), what's an > example of an IANA action that does create work for the IETF, such that the > IESG would object? > I think I gave one a couple of times: creating a registry that requires a designated expert (Expert Review or Specification Required) is what we've objected to. It commits the IESG to appointing and manageing one or more DEs, without approval that comes with IETF consensus. Barry
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Scott Kitterman
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Douglas Otis
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Scott Kitterman
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Viktor Dukhovni
- not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-based… t.p.
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… John Levine
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… ned+ietf
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Scott Kitterman
- RE: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… Christian Huitema
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… ned+ietf
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… John Levine
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Scott Kitterman
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… Dave Crocker
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… Douglas Otis
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… John Levine
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… Scott Kitterman
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… Dave Crocker
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat IT&Internet)
- Re: really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-based… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… Scott Kitterman
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… t.p.
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Dave Crocker
- Re: not really to do with Re: WG Review: Domain-b… Hector Santos
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Hector Santos
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Pete Resnick
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… S Moonesamy
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… S Moonesamy
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Martin Rex
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Martin Rex
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Randy Bush
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… John Levine
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… S Moonesamy
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Barry Leiba
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… John C Klensin
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… S Moonesamy
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… John C Klensin
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… John C Klensin
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Barry Leiba
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… John R Levine
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Martin Rex
- Registration policies (was: WG Review: Domain-bas… S Moonesamy
- Re: Registration policies (was: WG Review: Domain… Barry Leiba
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Dave Crocker
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Pete Resnick
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Pete Resnick
- Re: Registration policies (was: WG Review: Domain… S Moonesamy
- Re: Registration policies (was: WG Review: Domain… Barry Leiba
- Re: Registration policies (was: WG Review: Domain… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Registration policies (was: WG Review: Domain… Barry Leiba
- Re: Registration policies (was: WG Review: Domain… Murray S. Kucherawy
- [***SPAM***] Re: Registration policies (was: WG R… S Moonesamy
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… ned+ietf
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Hector Santos
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Martin Rex
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Stuart Barkley
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Randy Bush
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… John Levine
- DMARC and ietf.org Michael Richardson
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Douglas Otis
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… S Moonesamy
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [***SPAM***] Re: Registration policies (was: … Barry Leiba
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org John C Klensin
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Brian E Carpenter
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Hector Santos
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Miles Fidelman
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Eric Burger
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Brian E Carpenter
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Miles Fidelman
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Pete Resnick
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] WG Review: Domain-based Message … Hector Santos
- Re: WG Review: Domain-based Message Authenticatio… Martin Rex
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Martin Rex
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org John Levine
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Hector Santos
- RE: DMARC and ietf.org MH Michael Hammer (5304)
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Hector Santos
- RE: DMARC and ietf.org MH Michael Hammer (5304)
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Hector Santos
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Hector Santos
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org John Levine
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org John Levine
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Rich Kulawiec
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org John Levine
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Alessandro Vesely
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Dave Crocker
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Brian E Carpenter
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org ned+ietf
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Russ Housley
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org ned+ietf
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Dave Crocker
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Brian E Carpenter
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Dave Crocker
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Michael Richardson
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Michael Richardson
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Michael Richardson
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Andrew G. Malis
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Russ Housley
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Michael Richardson
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Brian E Carpenter
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Brian E Carpenter
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Dave Crocker
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Russ Housley
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org Michael Richardson
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org John Payne
- Re: DMARC and ietf.org John Levine