Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EC312962C for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:13:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.734 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.734 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id txO2VpqLutv9 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from linode64.ducksong.com (www.ducksong.com [192.155.95.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FEF129616 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f182.google.com (mail-yw0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by linode64.ducksong.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BC6473A0A1 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 12:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-yw0-f182.google.com with SMTP id d1so37504952ywd.2 for ; Wed, 01 Mar 2017 09:07:12 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39mKMmnB7TL2xzIfR7V9rHIqFFpoXWuN5sT8RbEsopKQQL2EHDavMHmtV+QNe8KXliWJpewmHyMy7q1C3A== X-Received: by 10.200.42.151 with SMTP id b23mr10893353qta.163.1488388032466; Wed, 01 Mar 2017 09:07:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.162.65 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:07:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <14476.1488384266@obiwan.sandelman.ca> References: <14476.1488384266@obiwan.sandelman.ca> From: Patrick McManus Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 12:07:11 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: RANT: posting IDs more often -- more is better -- why are we so shy? To: Michael Richardson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1142f5c2f6eaf00549ae5701 Archived-At: Cc: IETF Discussion Mailing List X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 17:13:09 -0000 --001a1142f5c2f6eaf00549ae5701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > > For the third time in two days I find myself, when asking others for > opinions > about some text, pointing at github commit logs. With the beautiful > makefiles we often have, one can't even depend upon having a formatted .txt > version there! You can fix this with better tooling within github and travis integration fwiw. Checkout the httpbis github https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions - you'll see the for each adopted draft the README.md has links to the "editor's draft" in both txt and html as well as the working group draft. The former is auto-generated on every push to the repo, the latter is a pointer to datatracker. I'm not arguing against updating data tracker more often - just saying this 'editor's draft' convention can work very well between official revisions no matter the cadence a WG chooses. --001a1142f5c2f6eaf00549ae5701 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On W= ed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca= > wrote:

For the third time in two days I find myself, when asking others for = opinions
about some text, pointing at github commit logs.=C2=A0 With the beautiful makefiles we often have, one can't even depend upon having a formatted = .txt
version there!

You c= an fix this with better tooling within github and travis integration fwiw. = Checkout the httpbis github https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions - you'll see the f= or each adopted draft the README.md has links to the "editor's dra= ft" in both txt and html as well as the working group draft. The forme= r is auto-generated on every push to the repo, the latter is a pointer to d= atatracker.

I'm not arguing aga= inst updating data tracker more often - just saying this 'editor's = draft' convention can work very well between official revisions no matt= er the cadence a WG chooses.


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