Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists

Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Tue, 15 April 2008 06:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists
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On 2008-04-15 05:12 Ned Freed said the following:
>> On 2008-04-15 00:35 Ned Freed said the following:
>>>> On 2008-04-14 23:11 Ned Freed said the following:
> 
>>> I guess I should be flattered, but really, I fail to see why. Guaranteed bypass
>>> of moderation is simply an allowed-poster whitelist.
> 
>> So it seems to me that you've failed to see the problem.
> 
>> Anybody who considers themselves a valid poster is supposed to be able to
>> bypass moderation, challenge-response and spam-filtering.
> 
> I see nothing in the requirements that says this supposed to be possible as a
> unilateral action on the part of the poster. That's clearly preposterous - it
> should go without saying that whitelisting arrangements are just that:
> Arrangements. The requirements leave open how such arrangements are made; IMO
> that's entirely appropriate.
> 
>> This would also
>> include a spammer who considers himself a valid poster.  At the same time,
>> the IETF lists MUST provide spam control.  I see this as a contradiction in
>> the announced text.
> 
> Only if you engage in a VERY creative reading of what's there.

As has been painfully clear for some email round-trips, we obviously don't agree.


	Henrik


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