009/8... IBM....Aug 92...RIGHTS...ARCH...DYNAMITE...TRIBE...BURNT...ISTANBUL...RIGHT...UNION

"Jim Fleming" <JimFleming@ameritech.net> Thu, 05 September 2002 03:06 UTC

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From: Jim Fleming <JimFleming@ameritech.net>
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Subject: 009/8... IBM....Aug 92...RIGHTS...ARCH...DYNAMITE...TRIBE...BURNT...ISTANBUL...RIGHT...UNION
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In the IPv8 Address Management plan, the legacy address space is managed by clusters of
TLD Managers, as opposed to one central body, which seems to favor giving free allocations
to the "right" people and charges others for address space allocation. The 8 TLD Managers
could be considered "Trustees" of the address space allocations. They can collectively help to
ensure that the address space is being used effectively and is allocated fairly. If organizations
are not using their allocations, they can turn them into the 8 TLD Managers who can help to
reallocate the space via the management of the IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names. As an example,
the 9.*.*.* legacy 32-bit space can be collectively managed by IBM and various TLD Managers.
They can do a survey of how the address space is used, whether it is effectively being used, and
whether the annual fees are being paid for the usage. Based on the market rates of $10 per month
for one 32-bit IP address, a /8 would lease for about $168 million per year, which is a one month
brokers fee common in real estate. That can help to fund the 8 TLD managers, with $21 million
per year (each). People with domain names to the left of 9.IN-ADDR.ARPA (using this example)
would of course pay annual fees for those allocations. If the space is no longer used, then there would
of course be no revenue from leasing it. Large blocks may have to be sub-divided (like land) to make
it more useable. The 9 Trustees may of course decide not to charge each other any money. How they
then pay the IN-ADDR.ARPA Manager is left to them. IN-ADDR.ARPA appears to still be run *directly*
on the legacy root servers, as opposed to on .ARPA TLD servers. No surprise there.
http://www.analogx.com/cgi-bin/cgidig.exe?DNS=205.214.45.10&Query=in-addr.arpa&Type=2&submit=Lookup

http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
009/8           IBM                                     Aug 92
0:72 RIGHTS
0:73 ARCH
0:74 DYNAMITE
0:75 TRIBE
0:76 BURNT
0:77 ISTANBUL
0:78 RIGHT
0:79 UNION
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http://root-dns.org/vuedig/vuedig_tld.php?record=NS&tld=rights
http://root-dns.org/vuedig/vuedig_tld.php?record=NS&tld=arch
http://root-dns.org/vuedig/vuedig_tld.php?record=NS&tld=dynamite
http://root-dns.org/vuedig/vuedig_tld.php?record=NS&tld=tribe
http://root-dns.org/vuedig/vuedig_tld.php?record=NS&tld=burnt
http://root-dns.org/vuedig/vuedig_tld.php?record=NS&tld=istanbul
http://root-dns.org/vuedig/vuedig_tld.php?record=NS&tld=rights
http://root-dns.org/vuedig/vuedig_tld.php?record=NS&tld=union
============================

Jim Fleming
2002:[IPv4]:000X:03DB:...IPv8 is closer than you think...
http://ipv8.dyndns.tv
http://ipv8.yi.org
http://ipv8.dyns.cx
http://ipv8.no-ip.com
http://ipv8.no-ip.org
http://ipv8.no-ip.biz
http://ipv8.no-ip.info
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt


000/8           IANA - Reserved                         Sep 81
0:0  ARPA
0:1  NET
0:2  BRAND
0:3  SITE
0:4  HARD
0:5  BLOOD
0:6  BLOWN
0:7  HTML
001/8           IANA - Reserved                         Sep 81
0:8  UNDERGROUND
0:9  CORP
0:10 GOLDEN
0:11 Y    (Single Letter TLD)
0:12 TOWN
0:13 NASDAQ
0:14 METER
0:15 TIME
002/8           IANA - Reserved                         Sep 81
0:16 STORE
0:17 BODY
0:18 MAPLE
0:19 AUTO
0:20 CHAIN
0:21 CHARTERS
0:22 BOLT
0:23 BOLTS
003/8           General Electric Company                May 94
0:24 NYSE
0:25 TOUR
0:26 PUBLIC
0:27 COUPONS
0:28 COMIC
0:29 CONSULT
0:30 XXX
0:31 HOME
004/8           Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.            Dec 92
0:32 RESTAURANT
0:33 BOOT
0:34 LLB
0:35 AGENCY
0:36 RIVET
0:37 CENTRAL
0:38 GROUP
0:39 BOXE
005/8           IANA - Reserved                         Jul 95
0:40 ARENA
0:41 CREATIONS
0:42 SCAPE
0:43 VOICE
0:44 ASSOCIATES
0:45 BEAT
0:46 STOCK
0:47 BREAD
006/8           Army Information Systems Center         Feb 94
0:48 JOURNAL
0:49 LOGIC
0:50 MATERIALS
0:51 WISE
0:52 DIGIT
0:53 DRAIN
0:54 EZONE
0:55 INDEED
007/8           IANA - Reserved                         Apr 95
0:56 BRICK
0:57 ROPE
0:58 SKATE
0:59 FLUX
0:60 FORUM
0:61 GMBH
0:62 HOSTEL
0:63 RUG
008/8           Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.            Dec 92
0:64 G0
0:65 BRUSH
0:66 Y2K
0:67 BULB
0:68 TAPE
0:69 DOKA
0:70 EAST
0:71 IMAGE
009/8           IBM                                     Aug 92
0:72 RIGHTS
0:73 ARCH
0:74 DYNAMITE
0:75 TRIBE
0:76 BURNT
0:77 ISTANBUL
0:78 RIGHT
0:79 UNION
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