Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net> Fri, 06 September 2013 14:00 UTC

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From: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 16:00:24 +0200
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* Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>Tell me what the IETF could be doing that it isn't already doing.

The United States justify these programs saying they are primarily used
to support their various current and future war efforts. Not meeting at
any level in countries currently at war might be a sound IETF policy.
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