Re: IETF chair's blog

[Arturo Servin <[e-mail]>]

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	I meant outreach, not collaborate.

	In the case of collaboration I agree with you. Although today we use
webex that does not seem to open to me (at least not more than FB,
Google+ and twitter).

	In the case of outreach it does not matter to me if we are using
closed or open applications.

/as

On 25/02/2013 14:52, Brian Trammell wrote:
> Hi, Arturo, all,
> 
> It does not seem appropriate for a technical standards organization
> dedicated to making the Internet work better through the
> development of open standards to implicitly endorse "communication
> protocols" which are based on closed access to distributed
> databases through interfaces that can and do change at the whim of
> the organizations that control them, further where those
> organizations have demonstrated a willingness to assert editorial
> control over the content they disseminate.
> 
> If a social network were to emerge that allows open participation
> at _every_ level, based on an open application protocol therefor,
> that would be something different. I fear that network effects have
> already made  such a thing unlikely in this iteration of "Internet
> x.0".
> 
> (Aside: I myself have used all three listed networks to get
> attention for ISOC functions at the chapter level, though I'm
> uneasy about that. I won't dispute that they're great for outreach,
> and when you're doing outreach, you have to go where the people
> are. In my defense, though, I was advertising a talk wherein I
> discussed why it's a bad idea to rely on such closed platforms. :)
> )
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Brian
> 
> On Feb 25, 2013, at 2:21 AM, Arturo Servin <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Why not?
>> 
>> I, my organization and many more (included ISOC) have found them
>> very useful for outreach activities. I do not see why the IETF
>> shouldn't. Please, tell me.
>> 
>> 
>> as
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 25 Feb 2013, at 02:21, Marc Petit-Huguenin <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>> 
> On 02/23/2013 07:38 PM, Arturo Servin wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Very good initiative.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Twitter, Google+, Facebook, etc. could be the next steps.
>>>>> Let's embrace new tools to collaborate.
> 
> Let's not.  Collaboration based on software running on servers run
> by the IETF or a contractor payed by the IETF is fine.  Using
> collaboration tools owned by the entities you listed, or similar
> entities, is not.
> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, as
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/02/2013 20:35, IETF Chair wrote:
>>>>>> Jari has created a blog as an experiment to see if would
>>>>>> be possible to provide periodic status reports and other
>>>>>> thoughts from the chair. Here's the link:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/02/chairs-blog/
> 
> 
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