RE: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Provisions (TLP)
Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com> Tue, 23 June 2009 16:23 UTC
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From: Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com>
To: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:22:13 +0300
Subject: RE: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Provisions (TLP)
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Joel Yes, I referred to that list when I quoted "classical programming code". However, as the list does not include a set of recognized programming languages, I thought that the issue was left open. By code marker I assume you mean <CODE BEGINS> ... <CODE ENDS>, which is itself a kind of pseudocode. Y(J)S -----Original Message----- From: Joel M. Halpern [mailto:jmh@joelhalpern.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 19:13 To: Yaakov Stein Cc: Marshall Eubanks; ietf list; IAB IAB; IESG; Trustees Subject: Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Provisions (TLP) There is an explicit list of what is automatically covered as code. After discussion, that list does not (did not, the last time I checked) include pseudo-code. Document authors are free to mark their pseudo-code using the code marker if they want it treated as code. The problem, as far as I am concerned, is that pseudo-code is not well-defined, and therefore including it in the general list, we would have ambiguity as to what was or was not covered. Yours, Joel Yaakov Stein wrote: > Could you change the wording "BSD License" to "revised BSD License" > to avoid confusion with the "original BSD license" > that contained the infamous "advertising clause" ? > > Is pseudocode covered by the terms of redistribution of source code in section 4 ? > The last line of the list of code component types is "classical programming code". > Does this imply a requirement that the code can be parsed by some means ? > > Y(J)S > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >
- Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Provis… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [IAB] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Le… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Simon Josefsson
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Russ Housley
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… John C Klensin
- RE: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Contreras, Jorge
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Andrew Sullivan
- RE: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Yaakov Stein
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Simon Josefsson
- RE: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Yaakov Stein
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Sam Hartman
- RE: [Trustees] [IAB] Proposed Revisions to the IE… Contreras, Jorge
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Robert Elz
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Tom.Petch
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Tom.Petch
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Simon Josefsson
- RE: [Trustees] [IAB] Proposed Revisions to the IE… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… John C Klensin
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Marshall Eubanks
- Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed Revi… John C Klensin
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [IAB] [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IE… Russ Housley
- Re: [IAB] [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IE… Doug Ewell
- Re: [IAB] [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IE… Russ Housley
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Ray Pelletier
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… John C Klensin
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… John C Klensin
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Fred Baker
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed … Margaret Wasserman
- Re: Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed … Russ Housley
- Re: Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed … Marshall Eubanks