Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technical discussion.
Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Wed, 09 June 2021 15:22 UTC
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From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2021 11:22:37 -0400
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Subject: Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technical discussion.
To: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: Lloyd W <lloyd.wood=40yahoo.co.uk@dmarc.ietf.org>, Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
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On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:29 AM Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton= 40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > Hi Lloyd, > > > > My reading of that code of conduct is that it only applies to Microsoft > run open-source projects rather than all open-source projects hosted on > Github. I.e., I would not regard IETF work hosted on github as coming > under the scope of that code of conduct. > > > > I’ve not read the policy closely, but at a quick glance it also looks > reasonable to me. > > > > Regards, > Rob > That is my understanding, GitHub is a platform which allows multiple communities with distinct admission policies to be created. Facebook is a single platform with a single admissions policy Most of the concern has been about people being unfairly excluded, I have a concern about unreasonable inclusion. I do not wish to hear any more about how the COVID vaccine causes people to be magnetized so that spoons stick to their foreheads. I have been vaccinated and have utterly failed to get so much as a teaspoon to stick. I have also failed to establish any connection to a 5G tower. That is not a hypothetical, I have been watching that crazy as it has been emerging for months. A group of lawmakers thought it important to air such stupidities in a hearing and thanked the perpetrator after. Sherri Tenpenny tells Ohio legislators that coronavirus vaccines can leave people ‘magnetized’ - The Washington Post <https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/09/sherri-tenpenny-magnetized-vaccine-ohio/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2doVsda38Ctkt5CR9dsc9nv9IdDbg8ArA9tFzlJtNfSzkY6sjCdkXHZns> Github isn't perfect but it is the best tool out there right now for IETF work. It is rather obviously not the right long term solution as we are using at most 20% of GitHub functionality and GitHub provides less than a quarter of the functionality I think we need. I have tried to get people to discuss what features they would want but they turn into editor wars of the 'what makes you think that you have the skills to design something better than a Web front end to a source code manager Linus threw together in a week, besides the fact you have been working on Web collaboration technologies since 1993 and your colleagues at MIT put the OpenMeeting together for Vice President Al Gore in 1994?' sort.
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