Re: GitHub blockage in Spain

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Sat, 02 November 2019 00:29 UTC

Return-Path: <sayrer@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E19112007C for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:29:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.997
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.997 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pLtrpQSAQsKT for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:29:52 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-il1-x12f.google.com (mail-il1-x12f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B211120074 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:28:43 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-il1-x12f.google.com with SMTP id t9so7840771ils.4 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 17:28:43 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=wW56EdcS/aifwKYoCpt26BhGHHDjBW1Ozw1+4dYsIws=; b=jtkgolLOxIkZCOqBsEMPlNX9oivd8B16tCzU4/SjoXUc21LTpXIFXtMvuqPrYuNLf1 /FHMH/SG+1s1G1RZ/HjvbFCh/SdFC4Z5nwWjjm/cuneVuOYDZ8/DKi2xEyII/3TOTkPy /20N2lS5ivh8qVONWaVXgxMxSwCRtm0gkZ4pbOdkziBGKFifXp5AZ2944Al6deB7Ifo1 LoXPTeyfaGslFNgj91nnPGEdZ6KgyVXK9Z6SIeN1R1LDOoDo7HB+802hz9odX+q3sm9W rGNDh0loFJmR38ec+2u3Rgh+CRUWDYqD0FsSkQKEt6tnimze2FvlzCqrX2riyzpwZdAv VWeQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wW56EdcS/aifwKYoCpt26BhGHHDjBW1Ozw1+4dYsIws=; b=X/8c3EluxYIHn8KKtUHDtMRfFzRoC1t5KCQK0uv+/7lkfi/Is0UDSWIlMH6WB9gdFx 6lXFm6BusY2PxBYI/LqtJH2b0G4FEHf0F5MvO1Pn1p8RJ9yyidNoz25ws2gYNzOOfcNw zLBWtn6zTrVLfO/vkD7Ufi469jo0isRiVwQc8vOswrIQ+FAsk3AZy6HvGctfL3Qcnisv UtGeuxnCKutu8C11Y1MWRx0Qa/XYxRCi62uchp6kUepyCcQUdashofFUrz5iSdOWZiS5 uIby6PIXolglKyU27TBYXqidCCm8SzJnPJRtF//8Wfpy0fuLg07Wy2pJxDKr/CO9Ruvw tQrw==
X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVgAP3HJB5orw0/7S990xugNZKKsS1y0pgWNsmdhx5sU5vlh4gq ynGtUrY8X49Bkt3IqMMh2ehM814IzHDAYeFSFcg=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyHyt8YdFOpHxX7m6k9iwuamtll3ZoW6t6EvCohhajwXzeDNXCFNpuHgvOFDiX0aT0zCvZ7vpgfCfXQSZ0pLtU=
X-Received: by 2002:a92:8394:: with SMTP id p20mr15940351ilk.73.1572654522742; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 17:28:42 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <e587b025-dad9-1cc1-45b1-f82c584d7f21@bluepopcorn.net> <2E1AD01E-3621-446B-BA53-D1BAAB3E9EDD@puck.nether.net> <CAOj+MMGARt6jHNBZuJSLBuS8k_51QwhtFFSxuOO+bNeg6BSdSw@mail.gmail.com> <b7aba860-0177-7560-b008-90d43f1fa2d4@bluepopcorn.net> <BE0C8D10-8AFF-4E46-86A3-663BD3915B07@telefonica.com> <71788D2A-E586-41A1-82C1-89838C2FE9BB@tzi.org> <005BC04B-E91C-4BA4-866C-83C5D043E99E@consulintel.es> <53b3a510-6a1d-83ce-ebb9-995d8ae562c3@gmail.com> <260F2B44165234CE288A1A5D@PSB>
In-Reply-To: <260F2B44165234CE288A1A5D@PSB>
From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 17:28:31 -0700
Message-ID: <CAChr6SxULM1zmOXoZMaM7enMn_bkQRo8_VTsa=hK9XRWqDML=Q@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: GitHub blockage in Spain
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
Cc: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002ebd730596522a01"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/D09JcBIOK6ruGXcHCJapIRE0Bvk>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 00:29:57 -0000

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 4:37 PM John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:

> --On Saturday, November 2, 2019 08:02 +1300 Brian E Carpenter
> <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > IMHO we should not discuss here any aspect except the narrow
> > technical one...
>
> I wouldn't expect us to avoid holding a meeting in California...
>

This issue has been discussed before:

https://www.ietf.org/blog/barriers-entry/

thanks,
Rob