Re: Please share your views in our first annual IETF community survey

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Sun, 09 May 2021 17:17 UTC

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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 09 May 2021 12:17:26 -0500
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Subject: Re: Please share your views in our first annual IETF community survey
To: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
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Hi, Jared,

On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:26 AM Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:

> If you have concerns feel free to email them to the IAB or I'd be happy to
> schedule time with you with IAB hat on to discuss them.
>
> I will point out it was in the IAB minutes here:
>
> https://www.iab.org/documents/minutes/minutes-2021/iab-minutes-2021-04-21/
>

I'm not sure if this was the set of meeting minutes you meant to point to
(I'm not seeing a helpful mention of "survey", just by searching for the
character string), but more broadly, I understand this survey, coming from
the IAB, to be squarely within the IAB's chartered responsibilities from
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2850.html#section-2:

   (c) Standards Process Oversight and Appeal
*   The IAB provides oversight of the process used to create Internet
   Standards [BCP 9].*

   The IAB serves as an appeal board for complaints of improper
   execution of the standards process, with powers defined in [BCP 9].


I'd have to say, as a former IAB member, I'm kind of pleased to see that
the IAB was taking this action (this chartered responsibility was mostly
about appeals in 2010-2013, when I was serving), but I understand why Tom
might have been startled! I tend to respond to IETF surveys from Jay
automatically, and wasn't thinking that it might be part of the IAB's
oversight responsibility (the usual post-IETF surveys were usually
discussed by the IESG when I was serving there).

So, to the IAB, good job, and we're all (more) awake now!

I just filled out the survey, and it seemed reasonable. I do wish there had
been one or more places to provide explanations, which I remember is
usually true for the post-IETF surveys. I assume something like this survey
will be sent out again, if it turns out to be helpful, so that can be added
next time.


> Sent from my TI-99/4a
>

This is the best signature line I've seen in email for a while ... I always
enjoy Warren Kumari's, but we don't chat as much as we used to chat. 😀

Best,

Spencer