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Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Tue, 17 November 2020 17:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
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From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
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Am 17.11.2020 um 17:02 schrieb Keith Moore:
> On 11/17/20 10:57 AM, Adam Roach wrote:
>
>>> Are those web browsers that are deprecating FTP also deprecating HTTP
>>> without TLS?
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2015/04/30/deprecating-non-secure-http/
>>
>> https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/marking-http-as-non-secure
>>
>
>
> Wow.  That's incredibly arrogant and shortsighted.  I cannot begin to
> count, for instance, the number of Internet appliances out there (in
> both consumer and industrial applications) that have http interfaces but
> do not support https.

Marking something as "insecure" is not the same thing as dropping support.

Best regards, Julian

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