Re: Registration details for IETF 108

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Fri, 05 June 2020 22:02 UTC

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From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 00:02:20 +0200
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Subject: Re: Registration details for IETF 108
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
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That message says it all !!!

Thank you Randy,
R.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 11:08 PM Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> > I saw a discussion on a WG list yesterday which I would characterise as
> >
> > In person meeting; Cost thousands; Timing chosen to suit others
> > Virtual meeting; Cost hundreds; Timing chosen to suit others
> > Virtual interim; Cost negligible; Timing chosen to suit us
>
> i am constantly amused that the internet engineering task force tries
> to replicate in-person meetings as verbatim as possible.  it's as if
> the ietf has yet to discover the internet.  ever read sci-fi where a
> culture replicates ancient rituals for which they do not even remember
> the reasons?
>
> > which makes me wonder if there will be an increase in requests for
> > Virtual interim, And if they are constrained, will there be an
> > increase in Webex?
>
> for example, a number of us have stood up jitsi servers.  and there are
> https://meet.jit.si, free zoom, et alia, of course.  we even hold
> informal ad hoc technical conversations, open cafes, ... without asking
> the ruling ietf llc <gasp!>.
>
> the world is changing, whether we like it, or it fits our beloved well
> controlled models, or not.
>
> randy
>
>