Re: Thought experiment [Re: Quality of Directorate reviews]

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Thu, 07 November 2019 20:19 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>
Subject: Re: Thought experiment [Re: Quality of Directorate reviews]
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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 20:19:36 +0000
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>    My impression from the regular plenary reports on attendance my impression is
    that the number of people involved in the IETF is declining, yet the number
    of RFCs being processed is going up.
  
Attendance is perhaps declining, but I don't recall any discussion of WG email traffic, for example.